Kevin Reilly
Episode 293
9 SEP 2024
He was drafted by the NFL’s Miami Dolphins and went on to play for both the Philadelphia Eagles and the New England Patriots after having played college football at Villanova University on a full athletic scholarship. He is a member of three halls of fame, went on to become a radio announcer for the Philadelphia Eagles, and has even run five half-marathons. Also an inspirational speaker, he has an amazing story of being a cancer survivor and amputee. He is currently writing a book about his Catholic journey, which follows a book he previously wrote, called, “Tackling Life: How Faith, Family, Friends, and Fortitude Kept an NFL Linebacker in the Game.”
Notable guest quotes:
“I went to Catholic preschool. I went to Catholic kindergarten at St. Anthony’s. And then I did 16 years of Catholic education starting in first grade.”
“I went to an all-boys high school… which was really instrumental in me finding a deeper faith. And then on to Villanova University where I played football for four years, which was also Catholic. So, I got to see the oblates of St. Francis de Sales in action, and I got to see the Augustinians up at Villanova in action; two different clerical organizations, but very, very good people and very, very deeply religious in God.”
“I guess the mojo and the energy that both basketball and football played, because it was so fast, really built a camaraderie that I think is only next to being in civil service or being in the Army or Navy or Air Force.”
“I don’t know who played third string, second string, but as long as they were playing on my football team, they were my brother.”
“So, you think about things and what God has in plan for you. I did a lot of praying and a lot of my prayers were answered. That’s all I can tell you.”
“I came back to the team that I was thinking about, in my dreams, of possibly playing for… the first game I played, I remember checking my jersey to make sure I wasn’t dreaming. There I was Kevin Reilly, number 52, in an Eagles uniform. It doesn’t get any better than that.”
“He said, ‘You have a very dangerous life-threatening tumor in your shoulder, and I can already see that it’s going to be a problem getting (it) out and you’ll be lucky if I can save your arm, but I’m going to try’.”
“He said, ‘I’m going to have to do a four-quarter amputation if I’m going to save your life. I’m going to have to take your arm, your shoulder and at least four or five ribs’.”
“Every time I played against the Steelers, or he played against the Eagles, we would visit each other in a locker room, and you know, we just shared our Catholic faith.”
“He said to me… ‘I’m going to pray for you and I’m going to have other guys pray for you and you’re going to get through this’.”
“I can’t say that a day goes by that I don’t pray. I’m a lector, I do daily Mass twice a week, sometimes three times a week. And I’m big into the Eucharist. I believe that when I get the Eucharist, I have a better day.”
“After ten years of roaming around and wondering if I actually should make a chance of maybe getting into the priesthood, I met somebody that was really, really terrific, and we’ve been married for 13 years now.”
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(This episode contains a prayer seen in Play Like A Champion Today’s prayerbook for sports, God, Be In My Sport)
Greg McMahon
Episode 292
2 SEP 2024
He has won both a Super Bowl and college football national championship. He is entering his second season as Tulane University’s special teams coordinator after having spent the 2022 season coordinating special teams for the USFL’s Houston Gamblers and XFL’s Houston Roughnecks. Prior to 2022, he spent five seasons with LSU, where he joined the staff as an analyst in 2017 and later took over as special teams coordinator. That followed his having spent eleven years with the NFL’s New Orleans Saints, the first two as assistant special teams coordinator followed by nine seasons as special teams coordinator. During his time there the team won the Super Bowl in February 2010 over the Indianapolis Colts. He has spent decades around the game, first as a safety at Eastern Illinois and then as a coach at eight different schools over a 25-year period.
Notable guest quotes:
“My father was Catholic. When they were married in the late 50s my mother converted to Catholicism and we were raised in a very, very traditional Catholic family. We went to Mass every Sunday… all four of us kids went to Catholic school.”
“I loved and I feel very comfortable with my Catholic faith and so it really drove me to, like, when I was at University of Illinois, I never missed daily Mass.”
“When I went to LSU, I had to really find a church that has a 6 a.m. Mass because if it’s not 6 a.m. I can’t attend because I have to work. I have to do a good job, like all of us in our profession.”
“At Tulane we practice in the mornings, so our meetings start at seven, but I am very, the tougher things get the more I go to my faith.”
“I fell in love with the church on campus at the University of Illinois, the priests and going to daily Mass and so no it never ever affected me to not go to a Catholic university or work at one.”
“We have a staff meeting at four and I told coach I won’t be able to attend because I’m going to Mass.”
“To go to Mass weekly? My gosh, I mean that’s the way I was raised, I mean, when you went on vacation you always knew you were gonna go to Mass in Pennsylvania because we’re traveling or we’re gonna go to Mass, like, going to Colorado to see the Grand Canyon; well, we’re gonna go to, like, it’s just, you know, and our adult children, our grandkids, they know that Mass is a priority so it’s, I want to say it’s non-negotiable – we don’t even have to negotiate. It’s just the most important thing we’re gonna do.”
“I’ve got a very peaceful heart because I’ve always enjoyed people, I’ve always enjoyed relationships, I’m sure I get it from my mother and my father.”
“I got to constantly go back to my faith and stay connected and stay grounded because to me each day is driven by my faith.”
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(This episode contains a prayer from the National Catholic Coaches Association’s “The Leadership Papers,” although originally credited in there to The Coach’s Bible.)
Joe Patterson
Episode 291
26 AUG 2024
He is the Head Football Coach, Director of Athletics, and Vice President of Enrollment at Ave Maria University. Entering his ninth season at the helm of the football program, he led a turnaround from a winless first season to Sun Division Champions just two years later, earning him Sun Division Coach of the Year honors. He earned his master’s degree in Catholic Leadership from the Catholic University of America and taught literature at St. John’s College High School in Washington, D.C., for 19 years, the last twelve of which he served as the head varsity football coach, with his teams earning playoff berths in all but two of those seasons. Presently he is at the forefront of a new, free “The Pursuit of Online Wisdom” online course called, “Athletics and the Virtues.”
Notable guest quotes:
“My parents were a great witness to the Catholic faith… So much so that it seemed very natural. So that what we were practicing and what we were doing just seemed the right way.”
“Certainly the Marion devotion, the devotion to the sacred heart, we were all altar boys, things of that nature. And [my parents] were committed to Catholic education. So, I’ve been in Catholic education since I was five years old.”
“I knew I wanted to get into ministry. I knew that.”
“To weave in these other virtues, not only does it allow you to be a better team, and more competitive team, but more virtuous.”
“Yes, certainly being within the context of the Catholic realm was the, well, I don’t want to say it was a game changer, it was a deal breaker. I would not have pursued coaching if I could not have been in that realm.”
“We avoid the sun when we’re doing outdoor sports as much as we can. So, if we’re practicing at six in the morning, it’s that much easier to get up at maybe 4:30 to get in front of the Eucharist for an hour before practice.”
“You can’t compromise your academics. You can’t compromise your athletics. But most importantly, you can’t compromise your spirituality.”
“We played a game in Texas last year on a Saturday night. So, obviously you’re going to miss the vigil. And then – we’re budget conscious, so – we took some connecting flights to get back from San Antonio. So, we didn’t get back to campus ‘til 11 p.m. Sunday, but to have a priest come meet us at the chapel and have Mass, it has to be very intentional.”
“I use the seven deadly sins as a descriptive rubric to talk about the vices that we see so common, not just in pro sports but in college and high school and even in youth sports. So, we detail the vices but with each vice we have the corresponding virtue attached to it to show how, when properly done, athletics really is, in a lot of ways, the best training ground for these virtues for this audience that is engaged in the sport.”
“We do team retreats. Of course we start and end every practice with prayer. We have a chaplain for each team.”
Related links:
Joe’s bio on Ave Maria website
The Pursuit of Online Wisdom courses
(This episode contains a prayer from the National Catholic Coaches Association’s “The Leadership Papers,” although originally credited in there to The Coach’s Bible.)
Christopher Chen
Episode 290
19 AUG 2024
He started into sports later in life, with basketball being his primary sport, including having attended a basketball training academy where he learned from NBA Skills Trainer Drew Hanlen. He also worked out with former NBA player and three-time dunk champion Nate Robinson. In addition, he played ball hockey, including winning four championships, and he competed in touch football leagues. Over the last few years, he, “made the conscious decision to serve the church while incorporating lessons learned from sports to help my clients.” He is based in western Canada and is a state officer for the Knights of Columbus BC/Yukon State Council, and six months ago was invested as a Knight of the Holy Sepulcher in the Vancouver Lieutenancy. On the professional side, he serves as a Catholic Life Coach for Freedom Coaching. (LISTEN FOR THE POWERFUL TESTIMONY HE SHARES ABOUT HIS EYESIGHT AND A GOSPEL PASSAGE HE HEARD AT MASS!)
Notable guest quotes:
“My brother and I eventually started serving (as an) altar server… we were altar servers at a Saturday afternoon Mass at 5 p.m., it’s a Mandarin Mass … I was about 10 years old and that was my first exposure to the Catholic church, to altar server, something closer to just attending Mass from afar as a young child, not right up in the altar.”
“I learned later on that I had this missing part of my life where I wanted to be part of a team, wanted to play the game that I love.”
“I don’t pay to play; I pay to win. I learned that from a CFL legend coach, Wally Buono, and I took that to heart. I don’t want to just keep paying league fees just to play, just to lose.”
“We were able to win four championships in the ball hockey leagues in a short period of time, so that actually taught me how to work with others, lead by example, while also knowing what it was to fit on a team.”
“My eyesight got so bad, to the point where it was interfering with my ability to work, my ability to drive, my quality of life was really diminishing to the point where I think I was actually going blind.”
“God’s grace is working, I know that … I’m here to serve Him, whatever way that He wants me to serve.”
“He sent me a message through Instagram asking me if I’m able and willing to promote his ministry to the local bishops in my area. I said, ‘Sure, I’d love to do that’.”
“It was divine providence … and it’s probably the most rewarding thing I’ve ever done, might, most likely, be the most rewarding thing I’ll ever do in my professional life because it touches on my Catholic faith. I can use all my past brokenness and use that as part of testimony to relate to the clients.”
“I still use that as part of my testimony when people ask, ‘How did you join the Knights of Columbus?’ I always put up my hand and say, ‘I joined because of the free throw championship.’ That leads to all sorts of laughter and all sorts of different conversations as well.”
“There was a shift in my heart, that this secular part of my life needed to change. And at this point in my life, I went all in for the church in 2017… and I started taking on all sorts of different ministries and leading to me where I am today.”
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Lauren Hazbun
Episode 289
12 AUG 2024
She is a current student-athlete, competing in the sport of volleyball. Away from the court, she brings her love of sports into her faith through a new non-profit that she is the founder and president of, called Field of Dreams Foundation: Catholic Sportsmanship in Action, Corp., which she talks about during this interview. She also shares strong faith testimony as it relates to medical challenges that she has already been having to face throughout her young life.
Notable guest quotes:
“God really emphasizes how much family means and we are very Catholic based when it comes to our family.”
“I am a cradle Catholic. Both my parents have been Catholic their whole lives. God was a very big part of my childhood. I’ve been to Catholic schools my whole life.”
“I was always looking for something that I had a click with. I tried dancing; I did dance for many, many years, and then I tried other sports to experiment. That included figure skating, basketball, track and field, cross country, and at the young age of 10 years old I played volleyball for the first time, and I never let it go.”
“The Holy Spirit gave me that motivation, that push, that I needed to get through recovery, through physical therapy, and I felt that God put volleyball in my life to show me that it takes a team. He gave me volleyball to create peace in my storm.”
“I love seeing how those girls or boys on the court have this strong love for each other and they look to each other once they know they did something right or wrong because it kind of shows that you can put your trust in other people and to me it shows me that I can put my trust in God.”
“In eighth grade, the morning after the sacrament of confirmation, my mom wanted to take one of my grandmothers to church, and I stood up to get out of bed that Sunday morning and I collapsed for the first time.”
“During that time, every lab or x-ray we would just pray and pray, and during my first MRI, my mom and I prayed very strong prayers like the rosary, and one of Mary’s strongest prayers. And we, in this time, gave so much thanks to God for letting us find it and really giving me another chance to be able to find my purpose in life and find a way to help others and to give my whole life to God.”
“I began reading the Bible more often and I realized that the number three wasn’t a curse to me, it was a blessing, because, in the Bible, the number three signifies completeness. It signifies the Holy Spirit and the harmony of life. And I really was able to find the good in the storm and just find God through all of this struggle.”
“If God is telling me that this is one of the few things in life that is going to keep me calm, I know that I have to follow His orders and just stay strong.”
“As a kid I kept asking myself, if God gives everybody a purpose, like, what would be mine. God put me on this earth to help others. He asked me to spread positivity, to put smiles on people’s faces, and to just be there for people and show them that everything is going to be okay.”
“Catholicism can be spread through more than just the Bible. It can be spread through more than just the church. Catholicism can be spread through love, sportsmanship, and respect.”
“Remind yourself to be grateful for what you have and to talk to God and just ask Him for help and guidance. I truly felt the Holy Spirit with me, especially during games, through that Bible verse.”
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JJ Niekro
Episode 288
5 AUG 2024
He is a pitcher for the Mississippi Braves, the Double A affiliate of the Atlanta Braves, with whom he signed as a free agent in 2021 after having pitched in the MLB Draft League. He then proceeded to post a 2.76 earned run average over 16 ⅓ innings in rookie ball. He had played collegiately in Lakeland, Florida, and in high school as well. Fans of Major League Baseball absolutely will recognize his last name, with his having had three different family members who all played in the big leagues.
Notable guest quotes:
“An extremely devout Catholic household… authentic and organic Catholic roots combined to produce me and give me such a beautiful Catholic environment.”
“I went to Jesuit High School in Tampa, Florida which was absolutely amazing. I met so many wonderful priests, teachers, friends and really developed a sense of Ignatian spirituality and working in the world and not away from it in my prayer life and my Catholic faith and how I treat others.”
“There’s a certain beauty in baseball as well. There’s a saying I love that baseball is like church; many attend, few understand.”
“I think there’s two of their parallels that naturally jump out to me about baseball and specifically to spirituality and ultimately to Catholicism because that’s where all spirituality leads, but for baseball, there’s a reason why some of the old stadiums like Wrigley Field and Fenway Park are known as cathedrals.”
“I think the Lord really allowed me to use those dimensions to add to my spiritual life and it’s something I’ve even built into my own before I do any type of practice, game, interview, whatever it may be, there’s moments of silence proceeding that allow for me to really contemplate what I’m about to do and do it with the best of my mind and my heart.”
“Those times the Lord built in for silence in the morning, even that just speaking with Him allowed me to recognize how beautiful this life is, the pure joy that we receive, especially from our Catholic faith and how good our flesh is.”
“I think spiritually we have to create that spiritual arsenal from building great habits, building great virtues, from saints, from people in our life and most consistently from receiving the Eucharist.”
“He’s just been the best father figure and coach that I could ever ask for and I’m so eternally grateful the Lord allowed me to know him.”
“My uncle (Phil Niekro) said a quote that I quote often and I really, really love it because it’s true; he never wanted to be a Hall of Fame player, he just wanted to be a Hall of Fame person. And that was the main goal and focus of his life and as I get older now… I appreciate obviously the chance to do that because I know how rare and fortunate I was to experience it.”
“Baseball isn’t everything. In the end when you’re looking back at your life, on your deathbed, you want to know that you gave everything to Christ and being the best father you could, being the best, whatever your vocation is, to be the absolute best at it and feel exhausted that you loved to the very end.”
“The Lord even said that he will not be accepted in every place and every time and people will hate you because of his name, and fortunately I haven’t had any instances where people have gotten mad at me because, the way I encounter Christ and the way I encounter a lot of my teammates is they all come from different backgrounds. I just try to love them the best they can to meet them where they’re at.”
“I just pray that all of us can realize the magnitude of our Catholic faith and how that it calls upon us to do this in every aspect of secular society. Whether you’re a baseball player, whether you’re an accountant, whether you’re a teacher, we could all minister and help others to know and love Christ the way we do through how we act for Him.”
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Mike Lynch
Episode 287
29 JULY 2024
He is the head coach for women’s soccer at Belmont Abbey College, a Catholic college in North Carolina. Having started there in 2011, he has a .633 winning percentage and has earned two conference regular season championships, two conference tournament championships, and competed in three NCAA postseason tournaments. Prior to Belmont Abbey, he also held head coaching jobs at Nebraska Wesleyan University and Truman State University, and as an assistant coach at the United States Air Force Academy. He had played college soccer at the United States Air Force Academy. After graduation, he competed for the active-duty USAF Soccer Team in 1984 and 1985, and was selected to the United States Armed Forces National Team in 1984. He served as Faith-Based Coaches Community Chair for United Soccer Coaches from 2017-2022 and is now on the Board of Directors. He has even completed several marathons, including the Boston Marathon.
Notable guest quotes:
“A cradle Catholic and I would say that probably the biggest memory I have growing up is just our Sunday Mass ritual. I can’t remember us ever missing Mass, which is good, and that kind of built in me that this is just what you do and something I really appreciated as I got older.”
“We were in eight different locations in my first 18 years, so every two years we were in a new spot and certainly every military base will have a Catholic church… so that was always nice. The other thing that was really great growing up was they always had excellent youth sports. So, if you lived on base, there’s always a great youth sports environment and I found that to be really helpful for me as we kept moving around.”
“I played football, basketball, baseball, swim team… whatever season it was, we did it and I just loved them all. And looking back on it, I think, I don’t know if that’s where the seeds were planted as far as being a coach, but I was always intrigued on just how each game was played, the simple tactics that you learn as a youngster in the sports.”
“I attended the Fellowship of Christian Athletes soccer camp in Daytona Ohio… and we’re starting with a faith huddle… they always start with a devotional and, of course, I grew up in a Catholic church and so… I’m, like, perfect, I’m not against it. And so I was very open to it… it’s kind of a great way to start the session because not only would we talk about a scripture verse, but we would also then relate that to what does that mean to you as a person, you as an athlete.”
“From that point forward I really, really found my faith to be a great place to get my mind in the right spot.”
“The mind is so powerful and so now we know that obviously our mind is a huge part of our faith. It is our faith. It’s our connection; this is where we’re praying to God and not asking for good performances, but just asking to be able to be present – to be present to what God has available for us.”
“It allowed me to start playing with less stress, I mean, no longer was I playing for the identity or playing for the outcome. I was just playing to hopefully glorify God, hopefully do it in a way that, you know, help my teammates, those kinds of things, and it really, really made a difference to me.”
“I had ideas and places that I wanted to go play, and things I wanted to do, and I really just kept that door open, and I thank God for that because if I had closed that door early in the recruiting process maybe I would never have been recruited.”
“That… is when I really started to say, ‘You know what, I’m going to incorporate my faith life into my sports,’ and so that’s what I really started to focus my team on. I knew that if I, you know, you train them up in the way that you go and when they’re older they won’t depart from it.”
“I kept thinking to myself, ‘God will provide. God will provide.’ I just have to be loyal to the call. And at that time, I was also doing Adoration hours.”
Related link:
Mike’s bio on Belmont Abbey College website